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Well, seems like that my grand total of 30 billion assistance is not a big number... I have felt guilty so I declared independence early. Anyways, sorry @IzDaBait.

Sunnybow said:Well, seems like that my grand total of 30 billion assistance is not a big number... I have felt guilty so I declared independence early. Anyways, sorry @IzDaBait.

It's fine. I couldn't care less about anything less than 250 billion but I would've kicked you out anyway.

Bumping the thread again.

Once again 20T gone.

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Someone just attempted to take 7,000,000,000,000,000 lmao not gonna happen. still need a limit tho.

Are you offering additional support or just the regular percentage? You could probably check through your sub-colonies list to see who has lots of population but not much gdp.

Honestly, I see no reason why people should need to be assisted with payroll. It's a strategy game, let them figure it out and pay their own people, it's part of the challenge of the game, don't take that from them. Colonies pay the commonwealth, and in turn the commonwealth provides assistance in the form of resources, but not always money. These people should be paying you for your support, you should be making money because of having so many colonies under you. I would set payroll assistance to 0 and help your colonies with resources and not money as they need it.

Honestly, I cannot tell you how many times I would've been grateful for just a couple thousand aluminum or uranium to get me past a certain bottleneck, but getting a large sum of money just ruins the entire experience because the challenge is taken away.

Amorphus said:Are you offering additional support or just the regular percentage? You could probably check through your sub-colonies list to see who has lots of population but not much gdp.

I offer a rediculous 9003% support rate. That's not the point though, here is how someone can siphon any support rate apart from 0:

assuming the colony only has ONE colonist, just simply imagine a small colony of 15000 doing these:
9003%, set payroll to 1$, get paid 90$, tax all people to zero. Set payroll to 90$, get paid 8100$, tax all people to zero. set payroll to 8100, you get 729000, then you get 65 million, then it jumps to 6 billion etc. This takes 45 minutes max.

10% payroll. set payroll to 100$, get paid 110$, tax to zero. set payroll to 110, get paid 121, then 133, then 146, 161, 177, 195, 214 and after another 10 repetitions it is 611, and another 25 and it's 6024 per colonist. Oh wait, the player starts with 2500, so they start at repetition ~20, and after only 20 minutes of game time with 10% payroll they can have stolen 20,000$ from the CW leader.


Payroll is too abus-able. Auto Budget must be fixed. It might not be a problem that you personally encounter, but it's still a big problem and just removing the feature completely from the game is ridiculous.

Agreed, the payroll is broken, since the cap should be 500%.

A quick solution @bastecklein

Removing the possibility to setup payroll, just make 3-4 level (base, x2, x4, x8, ecc).

The cap is 500%. Haven't changed it since the update.

This isn't the point. I've already explained it. You can siphon a colony with 10% support, for goodness sake. The Auto Budget is the problem!

Also asking a moderator to lock this thread since it's a dual post now that the other one has been moved. Let's move this to https://www.ape-apps.com/viewpage.php?p=36137